
Can I get this printed on a tablecloth? I’m not so good with memorization.
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Can I get this printed on a tablecloth? I’m not so good with memorization.
Oh, gawd, does this bring back childhood memories. Mama the Southern Belle, and her insistance on fine dining on holidays. Except fish. We didn’t do the fish course.
I eat off a paper towel nowadays.
*sigh* I don’t even know anyone who does this, and to people who do…. Why? Around my house you get one plate, one knife and one fork, and a spoon if you’re eating cereal or soup. That’s it. Anything else just adds to more unnecessary dish washing. But man, I’d totally screw up a formal dinner, one can only hope no one EVER invites me to one…
Just remember – work from the outside to the center (on both sides) and top down and you’ll be fine.
Mostly only $200 a plate restaurants use this type of thing. The food isn’t as good as most people make at home – just pricier anyway. I grew up going to these restaurants all the time, and to be honest with you – I’d rather have a Pizza and video with friends in my family room than do this. (Note – Pizza is capitalized…)
can tell you have no money
This actually makes me sooooo hungry because it fills my mind with so many possibilities. Now I have a really strong craving for french bread and some good merlot. Tilapia would be nice too.
I LOVE Tilapia. Or catfish. Nice mild flavors. I don’t like the super-fishy fish like salmon, though I do like tuna, but tuna is for mixing with mayo and putting on toast. Yum.
Spork.
Yes, I was wondering where the Spork fit in all this.
Start from the outside, work your way in. Easy-peasy.
That’s what I thought too. But what menu ends then with the salad cours? (he salad fork is closest to the plate in this picture and must therefor be the last cours! (at least according to what my mother taught me…)
In classic service, the salad comes after the main course. Salad first is a California-bred American custom, and quite new, historically speaking. Definitely not classical service.
Which is not to say it’s a bad idea; it’s a fine idea. Just pointing out that salad last is an older custom.
My french teacher told me that the salad course is usually last over there.
Exactly, although that does make the fish-meat-salad order somewhat suspect. I think salad-entree-dessert is more likely.
Note that in a traditional multi-course meal, “entree” would mean “appetizer”. I know US restaurants often use it as a synonym for “main course”, which is rather illogical.
(Solution? Call a starter a starter and a main a main. Enough with this French pretentiousness!)
Thank you. If, by starting at the outside and working your way in, you somehow get the wrong implement, your hosts are at fault, not you.
Actually, the spoon at the top of the plate is a dessert spoon. The tea or coffee spoon goes in the saucer.
And, now I look closer, the spoon called ‘soup’ spoon in the picture is not a soup spoon at all, but a dessert spoon, which should be at the top of the plate…
Forget it……………….I’ll just have a sammich.
The “soup spoon” is actually a dessert spoon; a soup spoon has a round bowl. The dessert spoon, not a teaspoon, goes along the top with the dessert fork. The teaspoon sits on the side of the saucer.
The side plate goes to the left of the forks, not above.
Where’e the napkin?
A cream soup spoon has a round bowl. Though I like ‘em for all soups, and chili, too.
I concur. I never ate like this growing up but when I get served this now I’ve always used the outside in rule. And checking the people around me. What always gets me in trouble is when the place settings are too close. I always end up losing my bread dish.
It’s really nothing to get uptight about. Anybody who would chide you at dinner for using the fish fork on salad isn’t worth having dinner with.
“It’s really nothing to get uptight about. Anybody who would chide you at dinner for using the fish fork on salad isn’t worth having dinner with.”
I completely agree! I’ve never been fortunate enough to be invited to a dinner where I’d have to know all this, but it would be a lot of fun I think.
All you have to remember about those utensils is: start with the outermost, then work your way inward.
At home, we eat with one fork, one knife (depending on the meat a normal or a steak knife) and one spoon.
Saves on the dishes too.
that’s not a soup spoon, not a fish knife, not a butter knife, there should should be a water glass, a red wine glass and a white wine glass….. so much wrong with this picture!
Right on every count! Plus no napkin, and the cup and saucer wouldn’t be on the table during the meal.The coffee could arrive with the dessert plates,after all that studff is cleared away,by the maid, of course!
Sorry-”stuff” not studff. My etiquette may be good, but my typing isn’t.
“Take away the clutter. I’ll use my fingers, thank you very much.”
Yeah that’s where I went too.
I actually almost never need silverware after breakfast.*all but dessert silverware walks away,reluctantly followed by the dessert fork.*
As for the silverware, an easy way to remember what goes where is the number of letters in the word. “Fork” has four letters, as does “left.” Same with “Knife/spoon” and “right.” The exception, of course, is the seafood fork.
As for the salad fork being on the inside… got me there. I have a book… somewhere… that explains all this but I have no idea where to find it now.
The salad fork on the inside probably has something to do with the French habit of eating salade before, after or with the cheese. That is to say : after the main course and before the dessert. But in that case, there should be a knife with it because you can’t eat cheese without a knife to cut it – in the best circles, that is, and this photo is obviously purporting to be in the best circles, although the person that set it up obviously doesn’t know very much about the subject ! Shame.
That’s a soup plate, not bowl.
thats not a soup spoon. soup spoons are round. thats on oval spoon for cereal
really want to confuse them should have shown the proper glasses for drinking the various types of beer. Let alone whiskey or mixed drinks
Wait hold on, you eat fish with two forks and a knife? You either need a third hand or some sort of prowess that I’m not aware of…
No, One fish Knife, One fish fork. The little extra ‘seafood’ fork is for some kind of appetizer (Some people now call this very first morsel of food at dinner, a ‘Starter’), which may or may not be seafood.
. . . . I don’t even own that many pieces of dinnerware. Literally, I own enough for one meal, one person. One plate, one fork, one spoon, one butter knife, one steak knife.
Cooking utensils however . . .